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Title: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on April 23, 2008, 02:50:56 pm
Can anyone e-mail me a couple close up pics of a rim for a bombardier . Side on, 45, & one for width. The one with the small hub. my e-mail is ;;popsshed@hotmail.com
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on April 27, 2008, 04:01:53 pm
I guess I should have said I have been talking to a supplier of differant rims. He says he needs a few specs of the rim. The hole diameter that the stub axle goes into & the total depth between the inner & outer bearing. Also I need the width for the tire bead, I think it's 4"?? Lastly I need to know if there is any offset to the rim. I would think it's centered. I've heard people saying it's hard to get rims for these bombers. Someone told me some people are stealing rims right off the machines. If that's right, wouldn't you want to try & curb that problem by helping me with info to try & find a solution. I am pleased to be a member of this forum. If there's anything I can do to help out any of you by way of this forum please let me know by posting a little message. I find that there is a lot of looking, but I don't see a lot of talking going on. That is how we all learn. We all have problems with these machines, so lets get busy & talk about it on this great forum. Help you neighbour & he'll help you. Remember, if YOU can't help us, We can't help YOU.  I apolige if I have offended anyone.   Thank You 

Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: grfishmaker on April 27, 2008, 05:51:03 pm
You are 100% correct on the number of people looking for information and not offering any. There are allot of very knowledgable people out there on this site that know a great deal but for whatever reason choose to remain silent. I know some members that tried sending direct emails to other members asking questions and never receive a response.
As your post here, "Bombardier Rims" goes to show. There were 20 views of the post, but when it was just information you were asking for, no one bothered trying to provide any help. If, on the other hand, you were selling bombardier rims, you would most likely be on your third page with inquires asking how much and how many you had.
If there is no one on this site that doesn't have a rim to measure, then they are in a shorter supply than I thought.
Those websites you gave us for possible suppliers for lights, door handles, wiper motors etc.. have been very useful to me. There's allot of intreseting products out there that may be useful to us for our machines, but we may never find the sites. It's nice when someone posts them for others to look at and maybe use.

Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 23, 2008, 05:07:13 am
   Good day to the members of this fine forum. I have found two dealers that say they have a couple of " NEW " rims in stock. They are supposed to fit the old bombardier snow bus, he says. One dealer is out west, & the other is down this way, for the east coast.
   I told him I was looking for a rim to fit a 47 to 70 bomber. I am not sure if I'm right in saying that they fit all. That's where you people come into play.
   I think if I had the right bearing #'s & specs of those wheels, I could confirm those with dimensions of this new rim. They said they would be expensive.
   I just want to make sure I give you the right information. And yes you are right in saying I have nothing else to do. Total disability changes life in the blink of an eye.
   Looking forward to your help, to help yourself !          
                                                         
                                                       The Old Trucker  10-4
   
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: bsonthelake on August 29, 2008, 08:36:53 pm
hey old trucker how is it going? have a little info on those rims. the bearings  that fit that rim are #15112 in timken brand for the backside of the rim and #09074 in timken brand for the frontside of the rim. i don't know the exact size of the diameter of the rim hole. i hope that helps you out.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 30, 2008, 03:52:39 am
   It's a start. They should know the sizing of these bearings. This company says they sell some parts for these machines. Now that I have some ##'s to start with, we'll see where we go with it.
                                                Thanks,   TOT
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: kpm on August 31, 2008, 11:27:49 am
,,different years...have different size bearings...
                                                                     kpm
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 31, 2008, 02:20:46 pm
  KPM, if that's the case, what's the ##'s of those different size bearings, & the years they belong to ?
I was told that they were the same up to 1956 - 1957. After that they changed to a different bearing. I stand to be corrected on that.
  I know that the j5 has bigger bearings. I plan on calling this supplier on Tuesday. Come on with the info, 10-4!!!
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Swamp Dawg on September 02, 2008, 06:52:08 pm
I'm curious why your going to all this trouble to research wheels.  Have you got a project on the go?
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on September 03, 2008, 09:11:05 am
  Dwag, it's the same reason I went through all the trouble researching tail lights, wiper motors, door handles & whatever else I researched for. I guess you can call it being "old age & headstrong". Same reason Bombardier did research on these old machines.
  I would love to say yes to your question about having a project on the go, but unfortunately I can't tell a lie. I don't have anything on the go. If you would like to donate a wooden body frame to me, then I'd say "YES" in a heartbeat.   
  Guess it's in my blood to help people out if I can, plus I find these machines very interesting. I heard that Bombardier made a press to make his wheels on site. That's 70 years ago. I'm sure we can do it today easier with our advanced skills.
  Life is very short & I'm making the best of it, my friend. It keeps me out of trouble with the boss!!! ha ha ha
  I hope this answers your question.
                                   10/4 you got the old trucker on the side.

 PS: I could research on getting that free frame bought down my way!!! For FREE!!!  chuckle  chuckle.       
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on September 09, 2008, 08:28:00 pm
  According to the way I heard it today, you can still buy new rims to fit the old bombardiers (snow bus ) as the gentleman called it today @ Prinoth Ltd. in Calgary AB. Now the price is fairly reasonable too. Only $ 710.09 each. Part # 602 000 200
  I have been wrong before, but the understanding they gave me is that they have them. I will contact the other dealer this week.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Frank Walsh on December 05, 2008, 10:22:07 pm
Hi,

I received the following message from a guy that is manufacturing new wheels for bombers. I don't know anything other than what's here. Just a copy of his message. I don't know anyone that has had any dealings with him, but looks interesting. This is my first post, and I tried unsuccessfully to add a picture that he sent me, but did not work. I can send it to anyone that would be interested.

Frank Walsh

Hello, just wanted to inform you that my company is manufacturing brand new Bombardier rims for snowbuses.  They are made of 14 gauge steel with a heavy duty machined center in which the grease cap threads onto.

Hello Frank, the price on the rims are $300 each.  The only other place that sell them is $500.  I can be reached at 19052524487.


Many Thanks,

Mike Jubb

indexfinger69@hotmail.com
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Frank Walsh on December 05, 2008, 10:47:28 pm
Want to try to add a photo.

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff340/Baystore/Temporary%20Stuff%201/059.jpg
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Swamp Dawg on December 06, 2008, 09:40:46 pm
Good find Frank, that's not too bad of a price.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Frank Walsh on December 07, 2008, 07:30:06 am
I thought so. Again, this was just an email I received unsolicited. I have no experience with the guy or the product, so can't vouch for him. But looks to me like they are worth a try. Personally, I'm sitting on a stash of about 6 or so extras, so I hopefully never need the guy.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Swamp Dawg on December 07, 2008, 09:52:37 am
Ya its nice to have spares, but it good to post this incase somebody else is looking.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on January 10, 2010, 02:41:39 pm

   Does anyone know if the rims from an older J5 will fit the b12?? How about the rims from a SW48 or SW54??   
                                                     The Old Trucker


Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: 48bomber on January 10, 2010, 06:39:28 pm
To old trucker,
 
   Hope all is well with you in the east.
   How is your bomber comming along? 
   Any new pics?
    48bomber
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on January 11, 2010, 03:36:56 pm

  I haven't been doing much lately with it. I was a long while trying to get the nerve up to put the rear engine oil seal & the front seal in the tranny. I am not a mechanic, but I got it done & I feel proud of what I have accomplished to date. I don't feel right asking people to help me on these matters. I have had a lot of verbal help from member "Retmech" & a few local mechanics.
  I want to see what work I can do by myself before getting others help. I got to take my time on account of the ol' ticker. The motor & trans is ready to put in place after I put a couple of bomber rims on to help carry the weight better. I'm hoping to bring a few parts to the blaster this week like, 3 rims, gas pedal, starter pedal & the big half moon gear that's used on the steering. . If you folks want something to do to help me you all can help me with the measurements for the framing. I probably could figure it out when I get the templates for the sides & go by them. It's like they say, a picture says it all.
  Anyway I have a very old chair that I have to re glue for a neighbour of mine, then back at the old beauty again.  Slow "n" easy does it.
       
   The Old Trucker is determined to    " GET ER' DONE"   
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on July 13, 2010, 07:22:40 pm

   I am going to look at a few old rims from an old J5 tomorrow. According to Guy Pepin @ the museum he told me the rims from a 1960 & earlier were the same as the bomber. I was told that the ones I will look at have the small bearing in front.
    If I were to use the rim from a newer J5 & had plugs made for the front, can you still use the caps made for them ??
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 01, 2010, 09:00:24 am
  I had 5 rims given to me yesterday. I think they are from an old J5. When I was taking the old tires off I noticed that three of them are a bit wider than the other two. Three are 4" wide & 2 are 3 5/8" wide. I forgot to recharge the batteries for the camera last night. I'll get a couple today & post them soon.
  They look to have the same center hole diameters as mine. I will clean them up a little & measure the holes. If these work out OK, I have leads on 8 more.

                                                                                     Looks like OT's rolling in rims !!

      let's see now... $10...sand blasting... $5 for a quart of tremclad paint... sell for $ 200 each...x 8 = should be almost enough to finish my bomber !!  Ha Ha

   I forgot I took a few pics for a fellow, so here they are. Cranman or any body, do this J5 look like it was built before 1960 ??  

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0699.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0696.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0695.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0691.jpg      
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: dpaulson on August 01, 2010, 09:46:11 am
Those sprockets look in decent shape also, maybe get that too.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 01, 2010, 02:24:09 pm

  Those sprockets will fit your machine. This is one of my sprockets in the pic below.
 
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/DSCF0319.jpg

  Here is a pic of those 4" rims I have. It's a full 4" outside. They all have the 2" hole in front. The 4" ones have the valve guard. Once I have them sandblasted they should be OK.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0710.jpg

    These below are only 3 5/8".

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0711.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0712.jpg

Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: dpaulson on August 01, 2010, 03:54:25 pm
Ya, that's what I mean.  Send em to me ;D
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 01, 2010, 04:24:06 pm

   I think it would be just as cheap to buy new up there, than pay the freight to get them up. There should be alot of that stuff kicking around in people's back yard, especially up there. Ask around & I'm sure you'll get more than you want. That's what I was told by the Grfishmaker, & sure enough I find something new everyday.
   I should come up your way with a pickup & an enclosed tlr.  I'm sure I can come back with enough to build 2 bombers complete....
                                                                            OT... justa scrounging parts !! ;D ;D
   
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: Cranman on August 02, 2010, 10:41:28 am
They should be ok OT. If the inner cone on the j5 is 15112 and the cup 15250 and the outer is 09074 and cup 09196, you are in business. Use the stem protected ones on the back with new 6 ply tires if you can as they are most important to get home every time, Even if the inner is ,15118 which I doubt, you can still change them to 15112 to fit yours.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on August 02, 2010, 03:09:48 pm
  Thanks my friend. That should leave me with 4 or 5 spares.
Has anyone come up an adapter that allows you to change the skis on the "woody" & put on regular wheels ??
  Cranman I may have the other problem solved about putting wheels on back. I am waiting to hear from a local tire company that has 3 foam filled regular J5 wheels that the customer hasn't picked up for a long time now. I'll see if I can get a bearing to fit both the rim & spindle.

                                                                                                              OT.  
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on June 05, 2011, 06:00:42 pm

  Anybody looking for a rim  ??? If you have a big hole J5 rim you can swap for a bomber rim. This fellow has 16 bomber rims.

 http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/DSC00804.jpg
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on March 12, 2012, 05:42:11 am

 What's the going price nowadays for a good used rim ?? I have been getting them for free up to $20 bucks a piece. I have a chance to sell 6, & was wanting to know what price I should ask. And I won't be leaving myself short by selling a few.

                                                                                                                  OT.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: kpm on March 12, 2012, 09:55:08 pm
well..I sold 16 to GRFISHMAKER....if I remember right...I think he paid somewhere around 20 thousand or so!!
....you should buy those two solid ones in the picture,change your back axles to fit them and OT your in business!!
               kpm
 oh yeah OT the bombardiers were still attached to those rims GRFISHMAKER bought!!!
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on March 13, 2012, 06:44:36 am


  OH yea... we have a smart alec in the bunch. I'll have to come up you way & pound you up a little... so you'll swell up to my size. ha ha ha. Those solid rims you said are in the pic, would they be the ones on the bottom left side ? The ones that are bolted together ?? The painted ones (big hole) are for his J5's. The unpainted ones (small hole) are from an old muskeg he scraped.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: kpm on March 13, 2012, 04:11:16 pm
yep....the bolted ones...you will find thy work great on the back!!!......and if you can't install them right away.....well.....then you best start using them for exercise,till you get down to my weight,so you have a fighting chance!!!.....ha ha
                                           kpm
                                                    hard all over!!
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on March 14, 2012, 06:24:23 am


 You have put the fear of God in me. I'm shivering that much I'll catch ya in no time flat.... ;D :) :D :D
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: the old trucker on March 14, 2012, 06:32:33 am

  KPM I have the old style 10 bolt adjusters on mine. Do I have to change everything there to fit the solid tires on ?? Can I get an adapter to fit over the existing axle ??
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: kpm on March 14, 2012, 07:38:41 am
....I only know of changing the back axles to fit the bigger rims...
                                       kpm
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: sav_x69 on March 16, 2012, 06:32:35 pm
You only have to replace the half of the swingarm with the spindle on it. the bearings for the solids are much larger.
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: FORD F-150 on October 14, 2018, 09:52:55 am
I have a few rims that need repair to the hubs, does anyone out there know if Dan shaver repair or replace hubs??
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: FORD F-150 on October 15, 2018, 11:45:14 am
Got in touch with Dan shaver, and he is able to replace the hubs, $50 for the hub and $100 for labour. Pretty good price for good rims with bad hubs, saves alot in buying new "phew" this is more for info for you guys
Title: Re: bombardier rim
Post by: guidehead on October 22, 2018, 03:40:19 pm
Alpine Guide tire Co. has new Aluminum Rims for your Snow Coach J-5, Muskeg and SW machines.  These are Cast 356-2 Aluminum heat treated and stronger than the original.  All measurements are exactly the same using the same cups and bearings.  Also have Bearing Buddies with threads to fit the original Rim.  See alpinegidetire.com if you need or want additional information.