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Title: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 01, 2009, 07:51:34 pm
 A few weeks ago I sent The Old Trucker a few pictures of my machine that I had just started to redo the woodwork on and he quickly informed me that "I was doing it wrong, you are supposed to put it on NT for everyone to see". I know he was right, but I sure hate to agree with a Newfie.
 Anyway, I had taken a few pictures as I started, but I see I should have taken a few more. It is so easy to forget the camera and peck away at the job ahead. I have certainly enjoyed following the previous rebuilds that have been posted and found some of them to be such a great reference during my rebuild (especially the old wooden machines). It's always nice to sit back and enjoy (along with the builder) the fruits of their labour.
 Back in the latter part of the winter of 2008, I purchased a 1947 wooden narrow from KLM up in The Pas (I've meet alot of nice people on NT). It needed alot of attention, but it was the kind of machine that I had always wanted. I had never ridden in a narrow gauge but had heard alot of stories of their work in the snow (maybe some tall tales) and it only incresed my desire to own one. Originaly my intention was to start on the rebuild in the summer of 2008, but the summer slipped by too fast and before long it was fall and it was left sitting with no work being done. I have no garage to work in so it was going to have to be a fair weather project. So I told myself that this wouldn't happen next year; I would work on it as soon as spring arrived and I'd have it all finished by summer's end and save the fall for hunting. Well back in mid August I realized it was all happening again and I had better get going on it or it would be a repeat of last year. My intention was to get the woodwork done and I could do the rest in the colder weather.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/a022.jpg
Here she is on her way home from The Pas.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/easterride0023.jpg
Taking her out on our first voyage.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/easterride00623.jpg
 Well you can see from the pictures above that there have been some modifications to her over her 60 years. The newer style windows are a obvious adaption, she has a 292 GM automatic transmission in her, missing her front bumper, missing half of her rear metal framing beside the radiator, the windshield and all side windows are cracked (except the driver and passenger doors), has metal under the skis replacing the wooden runners and the wooden plywood has been redone a few years back.
 Who ever owned her back then, had redid her using regular plywood. Naturally that didn't go too well and she showed alot of weather damage to the wood (warpped and rotten) and had alot of spots that silicone was used to try and mend the damaged parts. But like I said before, this was the kind of machine that I would like to have and I knew going in that there would be no shortage of repairs and labour involved in her rebuild.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 01, 2009, 08:41:25 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/hummingbrid351.jpg
 Well here she is in my new garage. This is where I intended to get the woodwork done and painted up before frost arrived and slowly peck away on the rest of the work before snowfall. This was "PLAN A".
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 02, 2009, 07:44:06 am

  Finally got you to do it  right !!   ::)  8). I know the tips of my fingers are sore from trying to convince ya to do it. I noticed the tail lights in one of the pics & they look like an old VW light.
  Send her down my way & I'll use her for a guinea pig so when I get at mine I'll know how to fix my mistakes.  Ha Ha. Keep us posted on your progress, son.

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Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 02, 2009, 12:33:08 pm

  I forgot to ask, now that PLAN "A" is out the window, what's PLAN "B" ?? You do have a PLAN "B".... well don't yea......?????
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 02, 2009, 05:11:48 pm
 Well Plan A started off pretty well, as I stated removing the plywood shell. On all the seams of the plywood on the roof you  could tell that water had seeped in and rotted the wood. After removing a few pieces off the roof, I discovered that not only the plywood was rotten, but also some of the oak frame boards. So this is where Plan A turned into Plan A 1/2 as I looked for some oak. Although oak grows on trees, it certainly doesn't in this neck of the woods. Luckily I was able to scrounge up enough rough oak to replace the rotten sections but this set me back a couple weeks as I located it.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/wd2.jpg
Starting to shed her skin.
No need to comment on the yellow interior. I think it goes without saying. "What were you thinking?"
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb010.jpg
The last person to redo the plywood used gyprock screws to attach the wood. I had to grid off the heads of every screw. They all hung on to the bitter end. As the rusted, it was like they grew roots. After pulling the plywood free, I had to go over all the remaing screw stems and unwind them using vise grips. This was a most enjoyable pastime as I scrapped my knuckles over every second sharpened stem. After a great deal of effort and a few new #@%* words of thought to the inventor of gyprock screws, I had them all out.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb008.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/b006.jpg
Got most of the old skin off.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/omb008.jpg
Rotten oak on top frame.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bom7.jpg
Some more rotten oak.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09030.jpg
One more for good luck.
 While I was looking for some oak I figured that I could start replacing the plywood on the front end as all the oak was solid in this area.
 I should mention something about my lesson on birch plywood. You know when you plan out a project and you like to have all the materials ready to go? Well this is what I thought I had done. Away back in the fall of 2008 I was down in Grand Forks and thought that I would check out the price of birch plywood down there. Bingo, 1/4" good two sides birch was $16.98 @ sheet. I picked out 6 sheets, bought them home and all that was left was till wait till spring and everything was ready to go.
 So like I mentioned before I intended to start on the front end first.  I started tracing out some pieces on my "good deal" birch plywood and installing them on my machine. I did a few pieces on the front end until I could go no further untill the oak railing along the top was changed.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb117.jpg
Stating to give her back her figure. (Little did I know that I was using the wrong type of birch and would be taking it all off and starting over. Thank God I found out before I went too far.)
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 02, 2009, 06:08:57 pm
 Once I prepared the bevel cuts on the oak top frame boards I knew I had to bend them so back to the computer and hit the old magic "Google" button on how to steam bend oak.
 It was while I was bouncing around a few wedsites on wood topics, I noticed one on birch. It was on one of these sites that I read that there was three types of birch plywood. What? As this was news to me, I called down to Lowes in Grand Forks and asked what the application of the type of birch that they sold was. After being handed off to the third person in the lumber department, I was informed that it stated on the information sheet that it was for "protected areas".
 This is where I started on Plan B.
 Now it was back out to the narrow and I started removing my carefully cut pieces that I had installed days earlier.
 A phone call down to Windsor Plywood in Winnipeg was made to ask if they sold 1/4" birch plywood? I was told "no", but they did stock 1/4" marine grade fir plywood. Good I thought, "how much"? $59.99 @  sheet was the answer.
 So you can see my good deal birch wasn't so good afterall. So another week rolled by until I could run down and pickup 6 sheets of the new stuff. This was my lesson on birch plywood and to beware of a good deal unless you know what you are buying.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 03, 2009, 04:34:04 am
  Quote from the Grfishmaker :

  This is where I started on Plan B.
   Now it was back out to the narrow and I started removing my carefully cut pieces that I had installed days earlier.

 
   Ol' buddy, ol' pal, ever think of making patterns of those carefully cut pieces & offer them for sale to your good buddies ?? ::)  Of Course they would have to cover the shipping & handling costs. After all you have to recoupe some of your costs.
  I was told that a tree down here called " BLACK SPRUCE" would be a good & strong enough wood to make my framing from. Anyone of you seasoned woodsmen have any thoughts on this ??
  Like Mike Holmes says " MAKE IT RIGHT". I'm sure you will my friend.

                                                                                           OT's sitting back 'n' taking it all in !!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 03, 2009, 12:02:28 pm
 Hey there OT, here are your patterns. I will leave them under this tree here and someday when they go missing, I will know you stopped buy. ha ha
 Seriuosly, if a person was thinking he could make a complete set of templates. As you are probably going to be the first and last person in the world to attempt a rebuild starting with a simple tunnel as a staring point, the blueprint sales would be pretty low.
 I myself cannot imagine the job ahead of you, but I don't think there is anyone that is doubting the fine machine that you will have when all is said and done with your compassion and interest. It will take a few years, so just keep humming the J. Cash tune "One piece at a time". Take your time, we don't want to see you change your mind and simpley put a set of tracks on that Ford truck you bought. lol
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb116.jpg
Most of these pieces came off with the screws hanging on and me ripping off most of the straight edges.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb115.jpg
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 03, 2009, 12:10:48 pm
I forgot to add that the pictures that "oldsledz" has posted were a great asset to look at and scrutinize. A great and complete set of photos showing the frame. As this machine was redone once or twice before KLM owned it, I was not sure if there were modifications to the frame or if all the shapes are original. Judging from the welded brackets there the heater was installed, it has has at least two previous mounting brackets welded to the pipe crossfame. That's one nice thing about people posting variuos pictures on this site; it gives us all a good libruary of reference material, especially ones that the owners know are original. Well done oldsledz.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 03, 2009, 07:04:38 pm

   Just goes to show that a picture is worth a thousand words !!!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 06, 2009, 02:40:32 pm

  Grfishmaker in reply # 4 second pic down, I noticed that you still have the old gear shift lever in place. I've seen that on a couple of others also. Do you have it hooked up to your trans for shifting ?? If you do, could you get me a pic or two of the area around the bottom of the steering column, showing how it works ?? I would like to do the same to mine.  ;) ;)

                                                                                                OT.   
   
 






 
 
 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 11, 2009, 06:55:12 pm
OT - the auto trans. is hooked up to the old gear shift lever. It is backwards from a normal shifter in that straight down is "park" and one up is "reverse" etc.. It is very hard to get used to and I will change it someday to a more user friendly shifter. Whoever installed it years back simpley hooked it up the the old arm on the bottom of the shifter.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 12, 2009, 03:38:55 am

   Thanks Grfishmaker !! I appreciate that. I have an idea now on how to hook it up the right way.

                                                                                        Thanks again    OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 12, 2009, 05:49:17 am
One thing on mine that's pretty annoying is just how sensitive the shifter is. It is such a short throw movement from park - low on the big shift arm, and there is very little resistance when moving between gears. Throw that together with an automatic with no brakes. It can get a little touchy at times.
 You better draw out some blueprints of your idea so a flatlander that you know can look at. ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 12, 2009, 05:54:35 am


  I'll see what I can come up with.... "Flatlander" !! Sounds different .


                                                                                         OT.

Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 13, 2009, 02:25:37 pm

  Hey fishmaker, In reply # 7 first pic down, the white piece in the middle looks like the panel just above the windshield. If I'm correct it appears to have what looks like 2 wipers on it. On mine the wiper motor was on one side which operates 2 wipers. It looks original.
  Did any of these machines have 2 wipers on them ?? Here's a couple of pics of mine.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0128.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/PICT0127.jpg

                                                                                             
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 13, 2009, 09:02:58 pm
I think you are looking at the piece that had the remanents of three running lights of some kind. It had just the one wiper hole in the centre. I believe that all of the old machines only had one single wiper. If yours had two, I would hazard a guess that it was a later adaption. I will have to post a picture of my wiper motor; it was a hand crank adaption.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/hummingbrid354.jpg
Here's a photo of the "Fred Flinstone" wiper motor that was in my machine. lol
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 13, 2009, 09:27:46 pm
 After I realized that I had to remove all of my "new" pieces and replace them all with the correct plywood; I decided to remove all of the old pieces one one side and start over. I did one side at a time as to not loose the old girls shape on the back end. Also, the rear metal frame piece was missing from the passenger side and I wouldn't be able to attach the end of the oak to anything until it was moved near to a welder.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb119.jpg
Top rotten oak rail removed.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bomb118.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09032-2.jpg
Top oak piece replaced and new marine grade fir plywood installed on drivers side. I clamped the passenger side oak board across the top to hold the shape untill I removed and replaced the rotten oak on the passenger side.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/caribou010.jpg
Picture of the oak clamped for use on the left side.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 13, 2009, 09:44:42 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/lm003.jpg
Here's a makeshift support on the backend to hold the oak frame on the passenger side untill I can weld it.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 13, 2009, 10:05:36 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/lm001.jpg
Made a new hatch opening.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09024.jpg
One more for good luck.
 I don't know why, but I always knew that if I ever had a wooden machine; that I would paint it white and nothing else but white. It's funny, but white is the only color. Maybe it's because it was the main color of most of the machines commercial fishing out of here when I was young (look at me I'm sounding like th Old Trucker, ha ha) but it is the only color for me. It's kind of like Henrey Ford said when he was talking about the Model A, "You can paint it any color you like; as long as it's black".
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09029.jpg
The plywood on the tunnel sides and top were solid so I decided to leave them as is. I never bothered smoothing them off too much as I will be covering them once everthing is done.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09031-1.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09030-1.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09004.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09010.jpg
Well I got most of the woodwork done and painted before the frost, but the rear panels will have to be done when I get the gas tank and rear metal welded. I will have to move it inside somewhere to do that this winter. I left the front panel off as I am going to install a new heater and make up a defrost vent for the windshield. Also, I have to clean up alot of the "extra" wires hanging around the dash area.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 13, 2009, 10:18:14 pm
I notice that all of my pictures that I post are larger than the viewing screen and have to be scanned over to view the entire picture. What am I doing wrong. I notice that some peoples posts fit the view area without any problems. Even The Old Truckers pictures fit good. How do you think that makes me feel? Just kidding there OT, no hate mail. ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 14, 2009, 09:32:41 am
I notice that all of my pictures that I post are larger than the viewing screen and have to be scanned over to view the entire picture. What am I doing wrong. I notice that some peoples posts fit the view area without any problems. Even The Old Truckers pictures fit good. How do you think that makes me feel? Just kidding there OT, no hate mail. ha ha

  Now now, Mr Grfishmaker. We can't all be perfect !! Try reducing the size on your camera. Remember the email I sent you explaining how mine was done. Worked for me.
  It looks like I've got some competition when it comes to woodworking. Ot's mighty proud of you, my friend. Keep up the good work & I'll send mine up to get done this spring.
                                                                                          ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 15, 2009, 07:50:59 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09015-1.jpg
 Install new tin lining in the motor cubby.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/09025.jpg
Well the weather has turned a little too cool for any type of painting, so the remaing woodwork will have to wait till sometime later. I have to clean up the wiring, install a new heater setup and make up a false dashboard so that I can have a defrost vent for the windshield.
 I purchased a heater from Princess Auto and made up a heat deflector to send some of the heat up to the windshield.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/m033.jpg
New heater that I will use.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/o026.jpg
Fabricated heat deflector for defrost.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/o030.jpg
Heater with deflector attached and ready for mounting once I have the dash prepared.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 17, 2009, 11:42:20 am
 Hey Fishmaker, did you tell me sometime back that when you rebuild the woody, you were going to change the big rectangular windows with the original round glass ?? If so what happened ?

                                                                                                         OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 17, 2009, 08:32:03 pm
Boy there is nothing wrong with your memory there Mr. OT. Yes, I was going to do that but figured that I would go with the bigger windows. The only thing that I will do is move them down slightly lower than they were. I figure as my eyesight gets worse, I need bigger windows to see out. lol
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on October 17, 2009, 08:40:11 pm
kpm..here...or klm..lol..been called alot worse,...i'm just guessing that moose horn,is the carving your working on for me,nothing like burning the candle at both ends...and G.... i have some more horns ..fall hunting was good!!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 19, 2009, 05:07:16 pm
Hello there kpm, sorry for the misspelling. Maybe I was trying to protect you so you didn't get credited for that fancy yellow interior. I guess we can still blame klm (whoever that is) for the interior.
 Ok kpm, here's my request to you. In your travels, if you can; could you try to locate a 5 blade fan for my wide gauge? It's for a 300 Ford. I remember you telling me the difference in cooling between a 4 and 5 blade fan. I was told by Orin to make sure it is a ridgid fan, not a flex fan and not a clutch fan.
If you can do this for me, I will certainly start calling you Mr. Kpm. lol
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 19, 2009, 06:55:16 pm
  Quote from Gror on Jan.26/09

Just had visit with Jim Woods and seen what he did on his newest project he is finishing. I havent had a chance to get it done yet , but have all the parts fabricated to fix it , possibly tommorrow night. Have other issues with the fan and also found out from Jim I need a 6 blade fan and should have that tommorrow.

  Grfishmaker that's from Gror. Wouldn't it be more practical to go with a 6 blade versus 4 or 5 blade ?? My engine is a 84 model & it has 5 blades. What's on yours now ??

                                                                                                          OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 19, 2009, 07:22:31 pm
It just has a 4 blade fan in it right now. I don't know whats out there. So kpm, what were you telling me about the fan in the last bomber that you sold. Was it a 5 blade or 6 blade, I don't remember.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on October 21, 2009, 08:36:17 am
it was a six..i'll try to locate u 1....
                                                   kpm
 p.s.  keep sanding on that antler..lol.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 21, 2009, 02:18:50 pm

   It's a good thing that I have broad shoulders :P :P . It takes a lot to look after you, you flatlander you !!!  Har Har Har.
   
   
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 28, 2009, 08:30:09 pm
Yes, I think I may need a 10 blade fan (with all that hot air blowing in from the east).
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 28, 2009, 08:40:06 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f017.jpg
Installed the new heater. Judging from the various old mounting plates that I cut off of the cross pipe; this will be the fourth heater mounting bracket to be welded in.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f018.jpg
Ran new heater hoses.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/o025.jpg
Cleaned up the wire run in the tunnel.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 29, 2009, 05:21:27 am

  Looks like your a busy man, my friend. Looking great. Keep it up !!!!    OT. 

                                                                                           
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 30, 2009, 07:38:27 pm
Quote from Cranman
"I've used the old shift linkage on chev powerglide autos. The direction is no problem if you put a bell crank back near the tranny. The bell crank can have holes about an inch apart that allows you to adjust the distance of travel to complete the shift. BUT it is nice to make a detent at the shift lever for more positive gear selection and prevent the shifter being hit inadvertenly into reverse or park. Sask power machines used a motorhome shifter on the dash and a cable set up to the 727 trans and I really liked that. Your neutral (well park actually) safety switch can go at the bellcrank or at the tranny. You can use any push buttton momentary switch but I like an old starter pushbutton as they are rugged. "


Cranman
 Where you mention making a detent at the shift lever; do you mean some sort of recessed rest that the shifter arm has to be lifted up and out of? I think I know what you mean, but you wouldn't happen to have any pictures of one would you? Would you have to have some sort of spring tension on the shift lever so that it stays in the recessed holder or simply let it lay there on its own weight. I know what you mean about accidently hitting the leaver and jumping gears.
 Between the touchy shifter, backwards gear pattern and no brakes, it makes for an interesting ride on the old girl. I certainly will be mounting a bell crank before I'm done and plan on getting Shaver to install some sort of braking setup sometime this season.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 30, 2009, 08:00:46 pm
I mentioned before that I planned on making a defrost vent for the windshield. I would also like to change the dash from the original flat dash to one with a slight 45 degree angle to it. I know the size of the steering wheel doesn't allow too much opportunity for much redesign, but figured I'd try. I plan on making it out of wood (I'll use my birch plywood somewhere) rather than metal.
 Has anyone done this? tried this? or have any ideas? More ideas the merrier!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 31, 2009, 07:16:32 am

  Grfishmaker I like the shape of the 1930 Ford model "A" coupe dashboard. I would like to try & build one for mine next year. It looks like a big Ford blue oval emblem. I have a few ideas in my head of how I would build it.
  Could you use part of your existing dashboard for a mounting base, build an angled dash & screw it on from behind to the old one, eliminating screw holes in front ?? Mount your gauges into a piece of aluminum plate & secure from behind your plywood. You can even make a trim piece to cover up the edges of the plywood with a router.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: Cranman on October 31, 2009, 11:20:55 am
When I was putting the 327 /2sp Powerglide in we were planning on making one out of a piece of teflon and securing it to the column somehow. But after we had the linkage hooked up with the bellcrank, and a few springs here and there, the shifting was positive and we didn't need it. The detent would be easy to make for a console or dash shift but the steering column would involve some seoius fabricating. On that one we put the safety switch at the end of travel on the tranny so it was engaged only in Park, and we spliced it into the solenoid wire so the engine would only start in P. Most trannies have sort of a natural detent in Park. Brakes are nice to have especially on start up when the choke is still on. After warm up you should be able to leave it in gear without creep. Cam and Darrell Mclean have some nice shifters with wood or stainless detents. These are beauitiful wood dashes. Darrells is "bird's eye maple" and it is a sight to behold. Maybe you'll have to make a trip over to see if those fish you spawned are surviving and look at some of these!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 31, 2009, 03:29:45 pm

   Please Grfishmaker if you go over to Cam's or Darrell's place, BRING YOUR CAMERA, extra batteries & take lots off pics. Don't forget to tell Cam I said hello !!!! Thank you very much my friend !!
   
                                                                                             The Old Trucker getting excited.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 31, 2009, 06:18:52 pm
OT, sounds like I might be able to make some money here. Do you pay mileage? ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on October 31, 2009, 07:19:47 pm

  Yes I do. You heard about Clint Eastwood's movie " A Fistful Of Dollars ". I'll give you a "Fistful Of Knuckles" if you don't.  It's like he says, Ya feel lucky Punk, Go ahead & make my day !!!! ha ha

                                                                                             Don't fool with OT.

                                                                                           
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on October 31, 2009, 07:45:56 pm
 Cranman - I hope to see you guys machines someday and see all the adaptations. On my machine here, it's simply going to be a working machine, nothing fancy. I hope to use it for moose hunting, etc.., so that is one reason that I would never varnish up the exterior or anything too fancy like some people (although they surely are beautiful machines). The main thing this machine needed was new wood and glass. Although once you redo the woodwork, where do you stop? I don't want to do anything too fancy; but also, nothing too rough. I can still here my father saying "If you're going to do something, do it right; make it look like someone stopped and worked, and never just passed through". I don't know how many time I heard that growing up.
I could still here him saying that as I ponder simply patching some of the rotten oak that I did. Although he is no longer with us, I still try to do things right, like he might stop by and check things out.
 OT  - I know what you mean on the taking pictures. It sure is nice to be able to see other peoples machines and tha various ideas that they have incorporated into them. I clened up and redid the interior of my wide gauge before I found the NT wedsite. I was surprised that there was anyone out there that were using these machine for recreational purposes as I had only see machines used for commercial fishing purposes. Usually the only work that was done on those machines was work that was required to keep it moving (motors, tracks, etc..).
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on November 01, 2009, 11:01:36 am
   
                 If you're going to do something, do it right;
  Are you sure your not related to Mike Holmes on Holmes on Homes !! Sounds like it. Since I found this site, I'm after building a dozen of these in my dreams. Now I finally have the opportunity to do just that for real with the help from all of you people. Keep the pictures coming !!!


                                                                                   This Old Trucker is proud of you all !!  10/4 !
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: orin on November 01, 2009, 11:42:07 pm
Thats a good heater, you got there. The pops has the same one in his bomber and it blows alot of heat. You may want to make a flap to open and close on the open side or you could have a hot right leg! Oh and we fishermen, besides having the motor running and the tracks turning, usually try to keep most of the snow out. Sometimes an old mit or burlap bag stuffed in the crack or hole works. ;D :D
Oh yeah, don't forget the piece of plywood nailed over the broken side windows!!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on November 02, 2009, 12:37:39 pm
Orin - Yeah, I know what you mean by repairing enough as long as the machine keeps moving. It's a little different different world between a working machine and a recreational machine. I know that alot of the tourist that come by this way in the summer think that all the bombardiers sitting in various yards are old broken down machines. When I tell them that they are used every winter for fishing, you can tell that they really don't believe me that they are used every winter. Most of the time all they need is a charged battery and away they go. I tell them the fish don't know or care if the machine has fresh paint or how it looks, as long as it gets out there and back, the fishermen don't care either.
 That's good to hear about the heater. I wasn't sure how much heat it would throw. I remember when I picked it up at Princess Auto, I remarked to the sales clerk that the sticker on it was something that I never seen in a long time. It said "Made in Canada".
 It's funny you mention the "hot leg". I had planned on making a heat defector for that open side, and before I realized, I had it mounted in the bomber. Oh well, I'll add that one to the "do later list".
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: orin on November 03, 2009, 05:49:58 pm
Do you still have the front peace of plywood off? I was looking at mine today and thought it sure is easy to change the bolts on the top of the springs/shocks like this. They sure are a pain to change any other time. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on November 06, 2009, 10:27:39 am


   Grfishmaker if you google in  jproc.ca/rrp/akla.html  & you scroll down a little, you'll see a nice looking dash in a b12. It looks easy to build out of the plywood you have left. It's something along the lines of what I was thinking about doing, unless you get me some pics of Darrell's machine  with the "birds eye maple", when you go to see them.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on November 16, 2009, 08:51:37 pm

   Grfishmaker this email is from Retmech. Thought it may help you or one of the members out.

  hello claude  you have a nice job done on your engine with the cleaning and painting. i see you took your distributor out. are you going to get it back without any problem. if you need any help you can let me know. do you have your engine put back together yet, because there are a few things that you should know before you do, also if you take off the clutch fan and replace it with a regular one you need to check the clearance for the fan from the bottom pulleys . sometimes a spacer is needed between the fan pulley and the fan. you may get a seven blade fan from a bigger truck such as a 6 or 7 hundred series to fit. 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on November 16, 2009, 09:14:56 pm
Thanks there OT; any and all information is appreciated. I am presently trying to clean up and paint the doors. Banged out the major dents in the main doors, but have to get the cargo door re-skinned.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on November 17, 2009, 07:36:08 pm

  Grfishmaker, how many wires are inside the wire loom you ran to the front & can you tell me what each one is for ?? Thanks OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on November 19, 2009, 10:34:06 pm
OT- I've been away for the past few days and gone again tomorrow. Just wanted to let you know that I'm not ignoring you and will check out my wiring when I get back. I know how mad you get when you are ignored (that's a pretty common traite in old people). I dropped off my cargo door down south to get re-skinned and also dropped off some cardboard templates of my windows to be cut up in The Pas. Stopped in to see kpm but he's still missing in action (couldn't even find klm). 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on November 20, 2009, 06:42:03 am
 
(Quote from Grfishmaker)
   I know how mad you get when you are ignored (that's a pretty common traite in old people).
 
    I'll let you know when I reach your age !! ha ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on November 20, 2009, 03:21:23 pm
I can be pretty smartass when I'm 1000 miles away. Plus I think I can run faster scared than you can mad. ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on December 12, 2009, 05:55:49 am

   Grfishmaker have you got a pic of your new cargo door & did you get it done @ Shavers?? How's work coming along with your rebuild?        OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on December 12, 2009, 09:51:51 am
well,grfishmaker touched base with me,we had a nice vist over a cup of tea.showed him the ceiling of the one bombardier(66 wide)that 's been done in cedar..and he checked out my other one (58 wide),always a new idea to be found when looking at someone else's machine!!
                                                                                             kpm
                                                     merry christmas to all!!!!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on February 10, 2010, 04:29:35 pm
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/hummingbrid351.jpg
 Well here she is in my new garage. This is where I intended to get the woodwork done and painted up before frost arrived and slowly peck away on the rest of the work before snowfall. This was "PLAN A".

 Grfishmaker when you are ready to put the windshield in place are you going to use that metal piece for mounting the glass into, or can you build the glass into the frame, like Cam's & Oldsledz??

                                                       OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on February 10, 2010, 06:43:10 pm
 I'm going to use the metal frame rather than the original type instalation directly into the plywood. Unlike alot of the machines on this site, this machine is going to see alot of willows and tight going. That's why I didn't bother going the varnished type rebuild. I hope to give a few moose a ride over the next few years, so nothing fancy....just as long as it is realiable and doesn't leave me walking. I have all the glass cut, now all I need is a kick in the rear to get going at it again.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on February 10, 2010, 07:49:08 pm


    All you got to do is turn around my friend...just turn around.. I'd be glad to help you any way I can. ha ha ha  ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 05, 2010, 08:07:31 am
Well now, that is a very generous offer there OT, but I would hate to see you come to the mainland just for that, so I got going working on my machine last month. I will post pictures of my progess in the next few days.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 05, 2010, 03:41:53 pm

  Grfishmaker how are you getting along with the new dash ?? Any plans yet ?? Those pics I sent do any good ? I'm kinda hung up on my progress. Waiting for new cables for throttle & trans. I'm figuring out if I should put 1/2" shims under the diff or cut a hole in the pan for more clearance. I blame the trouble on the new, thicker plate on the tunnel. I will check out that rad this weekend as I am going for another checkup on Saturday.
                                                                                     OT. 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 05, 2010, 04:12:19 pm
I got pretty much all of the outside woodwork done as well as most of the inside. I put in an extra back piece on the upper dash to accomodate a space for a windshield defrost vent to flow through. I will post pictures later, but I may remind you that it is protected by copyright. ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 05, 2010, 04:18:37 pm

  Yea I know. I can copy it. RIGHT !!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 05, 2010, 08:05:43 pm
Late last fall I started to prepare the doors. I was stuck on finishing the woodwork untill I could get her close to a welder, so until then I would do what I could. The cargo door was in very rough shape so I had it reskinned. The front doors were pretty banged up, but all I did was bang out the biggest dents and wasn't too fussy on their appearance.
Here's what the old cargo door looked like. It had been reskinned at some time with aluminum and showed so signs of rough use. It was very obvious that this machine had a pretty rough life over the years.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f068.jpg
Here it is with the new skin.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/a021.jpg
The old motor doors had their usual wear and dings, but not too bad. The front doors had about twenty coats of paint on them. As I sanded them down, they changed colors form about ten shades of white, then to three shades of blue, then green, back to blue, then metal. I simpley stopped when I ran out out discs and had a smooth surface to paint on.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f055.jpg
I cut out the metal to accomodate the newer flat style door catches.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f070.jpg
Motor doors ready for new latches.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 05, 2010, 08:16:43 pm
I was thankful that I had read in one of Cranman's posts to fit the doors to the bombardier frame before attaching the oak to the inside. I can see that trying to bend the metal frame prior to the oak would be alot easier than after the fact. Probably near impossible. A good piece of advice, better learned sooner than later.
I relinned the doors with oak and insulated the front doors. Also cut out the opening for the new door latches.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/a010.jpg
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 06, 2010, 06:53:24 am

    Grfishmaker where & what did you use for door catches & hinges ?? Mike bought a set of hinges like is on the first one we saw from Quebec, but he's not very pleased with what he got. Thinks it's too slight looking. He is going to check it & see if they come heavier.
                                                                                       OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 06, 2010, 04:47:45 pm
 All I used was the original type hinges. All they are is a 1/4" bolt bent with a shepards hook on the end. Dan Shaver has all three sizes (door, cargo door and rad door) and also the washer type friction spacer. The door handle I also bought from Dan. The ones he has now has have the threaded hole on the closer that fits a 1/4" bolt. This makes it easy to attach a cord for the inside latch opener.
 If you look close at the door picture above, you can see the bolt on the inside of the latch sticking up that I am talking about. Not all handles have this feature, so it is very handy feature to have. You could attach a ridgid handle or the original type with a cable attachment or whatever you come up with.
I know the hinges look pretty flimsy, but they do the trick. I'll send you a set for your stocking next fall (I'd say Christmas, but at the rate your going you will be driving around by then).
And that Mr. OT is all that I know.
 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 06, 2010, 05:42:56 pm
Here's the hinges. Just a 1/4" bolt.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/j026.jpg
Here's the door handle I bought at Shavers. I never took a picture from the back with the pre drilled threaded hole in the catch.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/f058.jpg
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 06, 2010, 06:07:57 pm
 Since Chistmas I've been sitting back watching and following the rebuild of OT. As I open his posts I can imagine the excitment he has and can feel the pride that he must have as his "bombardier from scratch" starts to take shape. But also it made me feel that I had better get going on my machine before he passes me by. So I loaded her up in early March to get her close to a welder so I could finish the outside woodwork.
So before I start, "I thank you OT". I'm quite serious: I have to hand it to you for what you are starting out with, as you certainly have a long jorney ahead of you. You and your partners are doing a great job and I always stop in for a look on your progress.
Here she is heading to the shop for welding.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/March2010.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/march20102.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/March20103.jpg
The back corner metal was all missing when I bought the machine. Nothing serious.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 06, 2010, 06:45:53 pm

   Grfishmaker I can't look at your rebuild any longer. I'm afraid that I may end up painting her white like yours. She looks great. A bit of new wood & paint certainly makes a big difference. It gives her that "new look". I don't suppose you would go back to yellow ?? What color are the rims going to be ??
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 06, 2010, 06:55:14 pm
I'm going to say black, but white rims with a black cap look good also.
Next fall I will take off the tires and go over the bearings. I can see that there are a few tires that have been run low and the valve stems are leaning over at an angle.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 06, 2010, 08:00:56 pm
Once inside and welded, I closed up the tail section and attached the front piece. Orin was right, it sure make cleaning up the wires and checking the front boggies while the wood is off. Installed the windshield, cargo door and front doors.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/470092.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/windshield.jpg
Installed new tailights.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/taillightgascap.jpg
Instead of reskinning the banged up rad door, I simpley bolted on a piece of checkerplate over the old.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/w0082.jpg
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: Cranman on April 06, 2010, 10:57:48 pm
OT
The hinges may look a bit light but they are very adequate. I see Ted and some others put another one about 2 inches below the top one so you have two at the top, for added strength. I made my washers by putting a bolt in a vise in the drill press and drilling 2 holes. Then I cut washers off as I need them but I suggest getting them from Dan and save the hassle. Same goes for the hinges, they look easy to make but you need to make a gig so get them from DAN and they are perfectly formed and the correct length so they do not bind.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 07, 2010, 09:04:11 am

  Cranman what Dan has is what I am thinking about putting back on mine. I think the ones that Mike has are what are in these pics.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/IM000388.jpg

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/theoldtrucker/IM000394.jpg

 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on April 08, 2010, 09:18:13 am
GRfishmaker...it's looking real good,I'M kinda sorta partial to the white myself,BLACK,that u suggested to OT...are u trying to get him shot at???..lol..one last question...i noticed you mentioned a sheperds hook in one of your posts,i'm curious just what extent does your knownledge of sheep consist of???..lol..
                                                            kpm
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 08, 2010, 10:47:11 am
Just counting them; before I fall asleep.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 09, 2010, 07:53:53 pm
 In order to make room for a defrost vent for the windshield, I put in a extra piece of oak (with a plywood spacer)and cut an opening for the air vent.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/47003.jpg
I finally got to use some of my birch to make a finish on the dash area.
After I installed the windshield I tested the air flow that came through the defrost vent and tried a few shapes and angles to see what I would need to get a good air flow coverage across the window. Once I picked the best shape I made a air deflector out of oak to deflect the air flow onto the windshield.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/newdefrostventdeflector.jpg
Here's a picture of the bottom of the defrost vent air intake. I made a cone shaped funnel that fit into the wood opening with a 2 1/2" nipple protruding out the bottom for attaching the hose from the heater.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/47005.jpg
Here's attaching the ignition and gauges to the new dash. I decided to just go flat rather than out at 45% angle like I had planned.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/wiringdash.jpg
Installing a few switches. One for lights and two for spares for the time being. Later, one will be for interior light, and one maybe for a backup light.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/wiringswitches.jpg
New dash ready to go.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/newinterior.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/bde005.jpg
There, for all you varnished bombardier fans, I dedicated my dash to you. lol Just kidding now. No hate mail
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/dash4.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/47012.jpg
Late last fall I had the windows cut out and ready to go. Little did I know that it would be four months untill I got back at the rebuild. Well I tried installing them last month with the rubber "tractor gasket" type that the glass supplier said was the standard that everyone seemed to use and like. I tried a few times to install a window and it didn't take long for me to realize I was wasting my time and would only be a matter of time before I broke a window. So I loaded her up on the trailer and off to the experts.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/w011.jpg
 I have used the rubber gasket material on my '53 that Dan Shaver sells and find it far better than this thicker type rubber that I have now. I find it alot more pliable and easier to use and if I had to do it again, I would use Dan's type. I suppose everyone has their own preferences and we all use whatever we find easier to work with, but that's my own opinion (besides, who's going to trust the word of anynow who paints their bomdardier white). Just kidding .
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/insidecargodoor.jpg
Here's in cargo door ready to go.
I still have to make up some sort of handles for the inside of the doors, but for now I just used old lamp wick. You can see how the prethreaded holes on the door latch is so handy for attaching whatever you come up with.  You can use any length 1/4" bolt if your design calls for it. I will use the old standard cable string pull (I think) unless some of you guys have some suggestions.
Also, I have to add the door springs.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 09, 2010, 08:00:09 pm
Oh ya, that's a genuine moose hide steering wheel cover. (Not sold at Canadian Tire.)
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on April 10, 2010, 08:33:16 am
sure taking shape Gary looks awesome!!
                                                         kpm
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 10, 2010, 12:01:41 pm

   Grfishmaker it looks like your doing OK.. Did you turn that horn button yourself & do it work ?? I think I may try to make a wooden steering wheel later on sometime.   Ot is proud of you!!! 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 10, 2010, 06:26:40 pm
No, I just picked up a 5" round piece of wood from a craft store. I don't know what or if I'll put anything in the centre of the wood for a decoration (NO OT, not your picture) or if I'll maybe just leave it as is.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 12, 2010, 04:01:58 pm

  Now you got my feelings hurt !!
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 12, 2010, 04:33:33 pm
Well there OT, I thought of taking your picture down off of my dart board and use that in the steering; but then I would have to replace that one. Hope you can see my perdicament I'd be in.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: marcdds on April 12, 2010, 06:19:45 pm
hi yuo are doing a nice job on ur bombi . the dash looks nice will you be using the original gauges .if not do you want to sell them .job well done will look graet when finished 
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 12, 2010, 08:22:42 pm
Thanks there marcdds, appreciate your comments. The two large gauges were in the machine when I bought it, but not working. Both were missing their glass. I don't know what it would be to get them cleaned up, but oldsledz gave me a contact that does that sort of thing if you are interested. You are welcome to my old gauges if you like as I won't be using them. I can send you a picture if you like and you can decide wether you want them. You may be able to find better ones if you put out a request in the wanted section.  Let me know.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: marcdds on April 13, 2010, 06:08:38 pm
ya send me some pictures im interested i have some spare glass i think will fit
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 13, 2010, 08:39:28 pm

   Hey Grfishmaker, where did you get your gauges & did you get the matching sending units for them ?? I think I would like them with a white background..
                                                               OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 14, 2010, 11:27:24 am
Those three gauges were in the machine when I bought it from KPM . As they were working, I just simpley cleaned them up (scraped off that yellow paint) an mounted them into the wood. They are those types that you see in places like Canadian Tire, Princess Auto (three in a cluster) that have there own mounting bracket. I just threw the bracket away and mounted them individualy. Actually the oil pressure gauge is not working, but the sending unit is there and I think it is just a matter of checking the connections. I checked the temperature readings with a laser reader and they are accurate.
They are the same gauges as the ones on some of my first posts of the interior.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 14, 2010, 11:56:53 am
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/m012.jpg
I thought I had posted a picture of the dash area back when I started tearing her apart, but I guess not so here's one. Those are the three gauges on the left side of the dash.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh31/grfishmaker/hummingbrid353.jpg
Here's one more. I forgot how nice it used to look. OT, I can get you the name of the yellow paint if you are interested. ha ha

Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 14, 2010, 06:43:59 pm

   Grfishmaker I know times are tough nowadays, but let me know your belt size so I can take up a collection from the members here & buy you a new one, since you used your old one to hold your heater core up with. I wonder if it belonged to KPM at one time ?? 
                                                                                            OT.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 15, 2010, 08:52:33 am
Actually that belt is bombardier part # 236209-2A and was an update to replace the bolts because of the faulty gas pedal that used to jump up and knock the heater off it's original bracket. I think KPM told me that the leather comes from the left side of a mature male Tibetian Rock Lizard and is very hard to find these days. After hearing the story of the belt I paid a little extra just to own one. (The belt now sits in saftey deposit box in Winnipeg and is not for sale).
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on April 15, 2010, 09:12:02 am
....the belt came with the bombardier when i bought it OT...even knowing the rariety of this belt i chose to let it go with the machine,due mostly to the fact that i never had a fondness for belts since i was a young boy.
                         kpm
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on April 20, 2010, 05:57:09 am

   Grfishmaker I know now why you painted her all white. So no one will see you when you go out hunting out of season, you'll blend in with the snow !!  ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on April 20, 2010, 05:52:48 pm
Hey, hey, OT, keep that to yourself. ha ha
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: kpm on April 21, 2010, 08:21:30 am
hmm...I do believe gr might require this type of stealth mode....to get close to any wildlife!!
                                                uh huh
                                                                 kpm
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on January 08, 2011, 12:47:13 pm

   Grfishmaker did you get the brakes done on your woody yet ???       OT.     
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: grfishmaker on January 09, 2011, 08:30:23 pm
OT, talk about timing. Just today I took the narrow out of the shealter for the first time this winter. Pretty bad I know, it's January 9th.
I never did the brakes yet (just no time). Due to family reasons, the bombardiers took a back seat to everything this fall. So now as things are slowing down I plan on getting back to the remainder of the work to be done.
Nice to see you are still cracking the whip though.
Title: Re: Grfishmaker's '47 rebuild
Post by: the old trucker on January 10, 2011, 05:08:03 am

  I understand my friend.   OT.